Decoder with Nilay Patel

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Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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  • Ashleyoftheriver
    Some good, much bad
    Some good info but too many interviews that end up more like ads for company of the ceo being interviewed. Combined with advertisers like Schwab, you need to take everything with a grain of salt.
  • ReaganB
    Every time I try this show I’m disappointed
    Really going down hill. Could be so much better. My advice: quit trying to be cool to these interview subjects and ask harder questions.
  • Chill Baby
    Awesome and informative!
    One of the best pod casts I have listened to in the last year. Extremely informative! Great lineup of guests. Host is great at questioning the guest. Listening to all the shows I have missed.
  • Harrow1nd
    Diction?
    Idk what the exact issue is maybe it’s me. (It’s probably me) But Nilay sometimes mumbles or slurs his words slightly. And even when i have AirPods Pro in I struggle to know if he said “are” or “aren’t”, and similar but i know sometimes he says things as an aside kinda quickly and when he does I’m like pleeeease into the mic. I like everything these folks talk about bc it’s so far beyond me. But I can’t help but feel it’s an issue of diction, like there’s a reason why news people sound the way they do and did during time of radio and I guess I want that back. 🫥😬😮‍💨😵‍💫
  • developernamedchris
    nilay is a legend
    homie is the most thoughtful thinker in the game. he’s open minded and inspired/inspiring but also ruthlessly critical at the same time - you can tell he takes a lot of care and time to wrestle with that balance. all the vergecast folks do this too tho. anyways much love
  • Tkd27
    One of the most informative and entertaining podcasts out there
    Decoder is a must listen for me. I'm especially interested in episodes on law and AI, and especially when those two intersect. But really, every episode is so well made, informative, and entertaining.
  • Zraja101
    A well done, fair and balanced discussion.
    Great podcast on the pitfalls of idol worship, and the downfall of a company that ran out of ideas.
  • mike0110mikeohyeah
    Excellent Business Podcast
    I’m in business development and I swear this podcast makes me better at my job. Nilay interviews some of the most successful, dynamic executives in tech and beyond. You learn so much about how they build and run their businesses, and you learn how to talk like an executive, which is a hilarious side benefit. I recommend this podcast to my colleagues, and I’m recommending it to YOU.
  • dcttd1354sfbtg
    Long time listener, first time reviewer
    Be like Mike, give 5 stars
  • jonesydesign
    Excellent Show
    Nilay does a great job interviewing CEOs and getting into their philosophies and how they work. Definitely a great listen for anyone interested in tech, business, and how they intersect.
  • Nevpaurion9
    One of the best business podcasts and interviewers
    In a sea of podcasts for the intersection of business and tech, this one stands out as one of the best. Nilay is one of the best journalist interviewers out there, at a time when many just lib softball questions and don’t press the issues at hand, he handles the job incredibly well. I also like the new additional episodes that aren’t interviews. Keep up the great work!
  • SkiingCory
    Unique Biz Show
    Always interesting listen. Not the same standard business interview show.
  • Godxavier
    Great podcast
    Just heard it for the first time with Polestar CEO. It was a great and insightful interview. I’m looking forward to putting this podcast in my regular rotation.
  • Fritz Swanson
    Real Vision, Backed up by Real Reporting
    Really great journalism requires two things: first, it requires deep and substantive reporting; but second, it requires a coherent vision of the subject. The balance of these two things is impossibly tricky, but Nilay is the rare genius who does the work and pulls it off. Journalism is not the bloodless, or mindless, assembling of facts. That’s a necessary precondition for journalism, but not the measure of success. Journalism requires an editorial insight into the beat being covered, it requires a clear point of view, that guides the journalists and the audience as they together explore the beat covered. Nilay is so successful because he is committed to both of these dimensions of his work, and DECODER is a pure example. I’ve learned so much from this podcast, and I am so grateful for it. When Nilay enters into every interview, I know what he cares about, and I understand WHY he cares about it. I love having him as a guide into the world of leaders, decision makers, and other entrepreneurs. I love the clarity and consistency of his curiosity, and how it has given me a useful framework for evaluating each of his guests. One of the special pleasures of Nilay’s work is that, because of his consistency and transparency, I can compare guests across podcasts. When CEOs return to the show, Nilay has a ready scorecard for them to answer to because he can refer back to their last visit. But even better, when he has multiple executives on from a single industry, we can meaningfully compare and contrast their styles, their visions, their assessments of the state of the industry, because Nilay is there to patiently set them each alongside the others. I have learned so much by the contrasting approaches of the different executives, even when they face identical problems. Ultimately, Nilay is producing a record of the industries that he covers. It is guided by his interests and passions, but it is developed with an exacting patience and thoroughness that has it grow more and more useful as the episodes pile up. You can feel Nilay’s work really elevating the industries he covers by meaningfully holding them accountable. Not to his arbitrary whims, but to the measure of their own words. Nilay remembers what you said six months ago, and he’s ready to hold you to your claims. On a personal note, I am really inspired by how Nilay balances the grace of a good host with the precision and bravery of a lawyer. He’s always genial, welcoming, respectful, but never timid or obsequious. He has his questions, and he wants answers. Not only is this impressive, but it’s an approach that really humanizes his subjects. Executives can often be distant, risk averse, and just plain difficult as interview subjects. But Nilay, as a successful founder himself, is able to really engage with these leaders in a way that helps me to understand who they are and why they do what they do. You should listen to DECODER.
  • alias986
    Super insightful and entertaining podcast
    Great mix of business and tech topics, and interviews with leaders in the space.
  • Tim Le9
    Really love the second love for analysis
    I think Nilay has a really interesting perspective so I appreciate how the second show allows a more deep dive into a topic than previously available. The AI copyright and Tesla episode were particularly insightful! I appreciate the thoughtfulness and insights from The Verge staff.
  • Cutthroughthenight
    Best interviewer out there!
    Thoughtful and amazing interviews!
  • _ant_g
    Top tech interview podcast
    Decoder is a super enjoyable, engaging show that dives into the business-y side of tech without buying into a lot of tech’s own hype. Nilay’s a fantastic interviewer - he does a great job getting into the minds of the interviewees, and pushing them on interesting, difficult topics. Definitely worth a subscribe
  • CoreyPHall
    The best show on tech business.
    And his Tesla takes are completely valid. signed, a proud Model Y owner
  • talrico
    Too much research
    I think this show is entirely too researched. If I want to want to bother to learn about things I’ll listen to this. Until then I’ll have Grok read my X feed while I am FSD my way TO THE MOON!!
  • Jackifus
    Thoughtful
    I appreciate how Nay brings a broad context to his interviews… I love how he frames the podcast episode before each listen. Decoder team you do a great job.
  • TylerNev
    Great show, especially lately
    Love Nilay and The Verge. I used to only listen if I was interested in the guest, but a lot of the guests were off my radar. But he’s switched things up lately and every episode is great.
  • ohousing
    My go-to tech and org chart podcast
    Been listening ever since the host Nilay accidentally got the Substack CEO to launch their weird “no position on hate speech” — prescient! If you want to know a lot about org charts, this is the podcast for you
  • michael_cincy
    Substantive and impactful
    Nilay is a polished interviewer who asks pointed and pressing questions to all of his guests. I always learn something new and appreciate the perspective he brings with his role at The Verge and the jovial yet professional tone he carries throughout the conversation.
  • tkbuz
    Virtually no research, just opinions
    Really bad takes on business, based on pop culture / mass media more than actual facts and research. I can get this elsewhere thanks.
  • Xyc55
    Difficult to take seriously
    It’s harder and harder to take this seriously because the bias is so obvious they don’t even try to hide it. I agree with other comments that generally the interviews seem to avoid hard questions. It’s sad because there are some good conversations, but due to the bias it’s hard to take anything objectively.
  • Dave Fresca
    Fantastic Podcast
    Keeps you up to date on the most relevant business / tech related topics. I listen every week…
  • WBSupreme
    May Revisit
    I started listening when the podcast first launch and found the experience mostly unsatisfying. I have always appreciated Nilay’s perspective, however, the interviews felt very shallow and repetitive to me: someone who has a clear stake in a position comes on and avoids answering any difficult questions with little charge by the host. I would finish each episode having learned nothing from the guest and the show soon lost any appeal for me. However, it looks like they have added some shows that do not center around guest interviews so I may revisit some of these newer episodes to see their value for me.
  • chrispauley
    Nilay is a great interviewer
    Nilay has been incredibly thoughtful in his structure for interviews. The “decoder questions” always come but there’s so much more to each discussion. He is not hesitant to push on guests when needed. He is also able to communicate concepts that I’m not sure I would otherwise care about or maybe not understand why they’re important.
  • JayAtFlight
    Second episode > normal episode
    The second episodes are fantastic! I love listening to Nilay just explain things. Love it.
  • sangwafive
    I like the show but
    This is the same guy who has ruined the vergecast by introducing a bad fit then failing to train them ! I tried quitting the show but I have failed so now I suffer through it because Niley who is the boss can’t give us a more intelligent person , Cranz ruined the vergecast and its all your fault.
  • hybridarjun
    Rock and Roll
    Paul
  • Mike Stanley
    Enjoying Decoder twice each week
    Really liked the second episode about EV adoption this week. The CEO interviews are fantastic, and I’m always up for more and deeper analysis of important topics.
  • JayyGeyy
    Intersection of Tech and Business
    We wouldn’t have tech innovation without the business models attached to them. This is one of my favorite podcasts because it looks at the business and leadership side through the lens of educated tech listeners that you don’t get from a CNBC or Bloomberg interview.
  • Dunklezeit
    New Listener
    Really enjoy my early listening experiences. Lots of useful information and an impressive choice of questions. Well done!
  • RCT1D
    I tried… I really tried
    I’ve been listening for 4 or 5 months and I’ve really tried to enjoy it but the presentation style and cadence just doesn’t do it for me. Gives me the feeling of talking to what I thought was an energetic and outgoing college student who is now on day 3 of their ADHD prescription running out. Good knowledge of the industry (despite having some cringy and disconnected VC type takes), but the juice just hasn’t been worth the squeeze for me. YMMV
  • DCH3434
    Excellent journalism
    I’ve been a Vergecast listener for years (miss you, Dieter), so I finally decided to crack into Decoder. Nilay walks the fine line of letting CEOs say their piece while asking tough questions flawlessly. I love his ability to think about implications for users in regards to tech business choices (and tech in general) and ask CEOs about their opinion. His expertise of many years in tech journalism shines through this podcast. Thanks so much for your dedication, Nilay. Bonus: Get a drinking game going for when his interviewees say “I’m not sure I have a good answer for that.” You won’t be disappointed.
  • 40 chicken
    Chip war author Chris Miller
    Podcasts don’t get any better than this. The information about how ultraviolet lithography machines work was fascinating. Intel betting against this technology was a epic mistake. The United States are really going to have to scramble to cover the distance created by TSMC. The people saying Nilay interrupts his guests are showing a lack of respect for his talent.
  • Definitely Ian
    Topics are great, host is egomaniac.
    Want to like this podcast but the host is rather arrogant and is a self-proclaimed expert on every topic.
  • Brad Jashinsky
    The Decoder Dives Deeper Than Most Business and Tech Podcasts
    Nilay does a fantastic job of diving into the processes and thinking of executives in business and technology. There are not many other podcasts that discusses frameworks and management styles in such a deep yet approachable way.
  • false psychology
    Continued excellence
    The staff, host, guests, producers, editors- well done everyone!
  • arsix
    Nilay cuts through the noise
    Ive been following Nilay since his Engadget days, I must admit I miss that trio a bunch (Nilay, Josh and Paul)… Nilay does not hold punches, he asks the questions we’re all thinking and rattles well prepared execs out of their comfort zone. His background as a lawyer (of which he humblebrags occasionally) allows him to dig deep and hold his own against trained speakers and leaders of the tech world .The insight and industry knowledge has a depth unmatched in my opinion. Even if you dont work in tech, I highly recommend giving this (or The Vergecast) a listen, as they tend to focus is on the famous intersection of culture and technology.
  • ulysses s grant
    An interviewer who cuts deep
    Nilay tends to push the guests on Decoder, and gets to a place with real answers and less fluff, without being overly combative or rude. It’s important and feels especially needed these days. It’s like listening to journalism unfold in real-time
  • Jmc3999
    Really really good
    Nilay is awesome. Great interviewer. Does not pass on hard questions. Previous fan of TL;DR, reply all and now hard fork. Decoder is a great tech podcast but more so a product mgt pod. Does it different from the others.
  • Angelfish1000
    Unprofessional and Biased
    After the hit piece on substack, in which Nilay made it about his personal ideological views (that I don’t really think he realizes are ideological views) I can’t really give this more than two stars. The interview was incredibly unprofessional. And am on a competing platform of substack and have no affiliation with them at all.
  • Evanspeterw
    Outstanding Journalism
    Precise and (often) pressing questions to get to the heart of these very important issues, events and trends. See most recent Substack CEO interview pertaining to content moderation as a clear and well appreciated example.
  • xcsteve
    Would be 5 stars but for atrocious editing/hiccups
    The content, Nilay, and guests are incredible. Very educational, regardless of the tech topic. That said, there are some MAJOR issues with some episodes, such as last year’s interview with ARM’s CEO. There are areas that are completely cut out, and audio skips around several times in the latter half of the episode. Then the episode abruptly cuts out mid conversation. Nilay and team, what’s happened here? Is this on Apple? Whatever the reason, it’s not good.
  • Tanker57
    Nilay is a great host
    This is a great podcast. Nilay always has an interesting guest. I listen every week and can’t wait for the next episode.
  • jswhitney7
    Decoder is essential for staying aware in almost all industries
    Nilay is an excellent host, and hearing such a variety of personalities and perspectives is so important to stay aware and informed on what is happening across many industries. Hearing the insights from leaders in these companies gives you such an understanding on why things are. Nilay does such a great job at pushing these folks and asking right questions. Probably the only podcast I try to push on my coworkers and colleagues.
  • pantlu1591
    Below average show with predictable boring content
    Sorry Nilay. The content has been trending downhill for months.
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