This is probably the best podcast I’ve ever listened to. It is exciting, wild, and just unbelievable!!! I love touching on North Korean history as well. Highly recommended and highly educational!!

Amazing journalism. I really enjoyed!

Season 2 was another great podcast with Great insight. Enjoyed it.

Storytelling is just great, the host do an amazing job to tell a very complicated story and to give the right amount of context and back story. The topic is fascinating, even for people like me that knows nothing about cybersecurity. I enjoyed the podcast and binge listen!

Excellent series, very revealing insights into a dangerous adversary…but still manages to be entertaining.

Came across this podcast by sheer chance and within one day went through all of its episodes…not only is it grabbing in the way it’s narrated, I very much enjoyed the historic context and the various perspectives shared.

Hey just my first thought just my friend who never calls just him he better be good girl good

This is everything I want in a podcast: twists and turns, great storytelling, new fascinating information! One host have spent a lot of their career in North Korea, and has amazing witnesses and speakers come on the show. I have read many defector stories but none of them reveal the info about the North Korea that this show drives into! I couldn’t stop listening.

I’ve only heard the first 2 or 3 episodes of season one, but season one is exciting, interesting, and even-handed, mostly “just the facts, ma’am”. This renews my interest in North Korea’s state-run criminal enterprises.

Great pod but loses a star for giving a platform to John Bolton. Saying he’s a “Hawk” isn’t enough to caveat the opinion of a man responsible for millions of senseless deaths.

Season 1 was incredible, 5 stars, and season 2 had potential; however, the hosts mannerisms seriously devalue the content of the show. The female host uses an unnatural and forced cadence and inflection in her speech patterns, and the male host has an aggressively obvious speech impediment (he can’t say his Rs and instead pronounces them like Ws). There is a possibility that this R-W swap is a lesser known British accent, but either way, unfortunately, his way of speaking is distracting, and a more suitable host definitely should have been chosen. Aside from these critiques, the show has a lot of interesting and detailed information on the previously secret financial operations and crimes the Hermit Nation conducts to keep their missile program afloat. It’s really intriguing to learn about the lengths that North Korea will resort to to secure funds. Overall I enjoyed this podcast, despite its hosts.

My friend recommended this podcast to me and it’s been a real eye opener to what’s going on not too far from me here in China. Such a fascinating story.

I Love the music and it is very interesting and informative. It is very hard to turn off when I am done. Great job!

This is absolutely one of my favorite podcasts of all time! I never want it to end, but I couldn’t stop myself from binging the whole thing haha

I just found this podcast and love it!

No, this podcast is not totally about Crypto Currency; it is an international cyber mystery full of shady, colorful characters, historic moments, one or two rogue governments and a back door look into the world of Cyber terrorism. Without these two remarkable tour guides to lead you through the labyrinth, it would be just another dry BBC documentary. Not so. The unique backgrounds of the hosts help listeners understand the story about one the of the greatest criminal enterprises in the world: The North Korean Government. A must-listen series that will get you hooked.

i was hopeful. But the story tellers have this ability to transform what should be a concise thought to a six minute dialog full of adjectives, adverbs, unrelated items to the story theme. So much of this show is just pure anti north korea propaganda. Don't get me wrong, I already believe North Korea is an evil empire. So I do not need this to be reconfirmed over and over again in the story. Just give me the hacker story ...

I finally took the time to listen to this podcast starting two weeks ago and loved season 1. Season 2 however is mostly filler that deemphasizes hacking and cybercrime in favor of a draw out geopolitical narrative centered on North Korea more generally. There simply isn’t enough recent cybercrime directly attributable to the DPRK for this podcast to carry on claiming it is about the titular hacking group. They had a good run, but should either rebrand or put a pin in the subject until there is enough to talk about to justify a full season.

I enjoyed listening to Season 1 and Season 2 has not disappointed. I really like how the hosts discussed at length several different criminal schemes the Lazarus Group and their associates engaged in. Excited to see how Season 2 ends.

This podcast gives listeners a fascinating insight into North Korea. I love that the hosts mix history and fascinating personal stories into the larger financial narrative. As someone who knows nothing about computer code, hacking, or crypto—I was still utterly hooked! More episodes please!!

The hosts are kinda awful One keeps chewing up their lines, the other tries too hard to sound like they’re sexing the microphone. Also, it’s getting progressively boring, but whatever, if you’ve got time to kill it’s ok

Enlightening, amazing, and entertaining.

High quality & very gripping.

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Now when I read the overview of cyber attacks I wasn’t so interested as I am not overly technical. But I listened to the intro and the presenters caught my attention so I thought I would listen for episode 1 and then see. Next thing I knew I was binge listening to it. It is well researched, engaging, rather scary learning about hacks and I have recommended it to a few friends who also think it is worth your time to listen.

Amazing and enlightening work by these journalists.

Great reporting on a subject that will continue to be a player on the international stage.

In season 1 episode 8 they said that the hackers spelled a word wrong. Would the hackers have spellcheck?

Very disappointed with Season 2 The Narrators are speaking so fast can hardly understand them.. What happened? Why must they speak so quickly.

The overly dramatic music clips are a distraction and make the entire show hard to listen to. I was immediately put off by this amateurish production gimmick. So unlike the minimal quality of BBC news podcasts.

Season 1 was great and if Episode 1 of Season 2 is an indication, Season 2 will be even better. Gripping content.

Incredibly gripping, and simultaneously impressive, scary, and fascinating investigative journalism surrounding a North Korean hacker group. This is one of my top favorite podcasts.

Content is great but you’ve salted the episodes with an egregious percentage of filler.

Cool story gets 3 stars. Dueling narrative between a British man with a gnarly speech impediment (obviously nothing he can do about it, but maybe shouldn't be doing audio anything) and a woman who sounds like a bad radio drama voice actor both distract from the story.

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My only irk was the recitation of Soviet propping up of Kim as ruler of NK. He had way more legitimacy than Syngman Rhee, who was actually a puppet. Any way - didn’t turn out great for either side for a while. But it would be fun in Noeth Korea came back into the world. Hello guys! Come back!

You guys forgot there was a movie about assassinating GW Bush when he was Pres.

Such a rare gem of a podcast. I usually love the things the BBC world service puts out- but to say I just love this would be an understatement. It is FASCINATING. Not only bc North Korea seems so dark and scary, but just the intricacy of everything involved. There are so many moving parts, you would think it would be easy to get lost, but the story telling and production quality of this podcast is top tier , and they weave it all together into a beautiful tapestry of espionage, courage, and might (among other things. ) Listen to this. You will not regret it

Fascinationg story. Thank your for telling it.

I enjoyed the other episodes but when the host advised the Mandiant employee he should retire the ma’am I lost interest. It appears one person can say something respectful and it will offend another… the Mandiant employee is providing more value to society that the host who corrected him.

Really enjoyed the storytelling, music and insight of this awesome podcast. Highly recommended.

The Rs are said like a W. Example, pwessure instead of pressure, pwove instead of prove. Hard to listen to

Good! Any updates?

Good but are you gonna do more or?

The guy girl true crime format was a bit hard to get to used at first. Enjoyed the story and the investigative journalism. Wish the BBC would move to 45mins for their podcasts and they would give Louis Theroux a podcast.

Amazing podcast. So happy it was extended into a book (which just arrived yesterday).

Very cool story but dueling narration is redundant and grating at times.

Fascinating story and the hosts present it very well. Highly recommended!

This show is so well done and compelling. BBC make excellent podcasts. I’m always excited when a new one is released and I can’t wait for updates on this one

This podcast provides a lot of detail and background, very engaging storytelling and subject matter. Looking forward to season 2!